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i know some people that had a call to move to a bad neighborhood. And they did so. Three years later, they have planted a church there and now there are more than a hundred new believers in that area.

04.10.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou CamMitch (0)
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@ brother_edward:

That’s great! I have a friend who became homeless on purpose to witness to people and to spend time with them. Since the church most likely shuned them from attending any services. So great to see such brave and obidient people.

10.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou p_a_m_1_e_l_a (3)
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participating in misions is definitely not for one who is not somewhat spontaneous or able to become spontaneous. The reason I mention that is because I am one who believes ministry is only given by the Holy Spirit. With that said the Holy spirit will direct you where to go and who to minister to. Are you really willing to follow the Holy Spirit’s lead. Will you leve the church you been apart of for a long period of time to minister. Will go to another denomination or race church? Will you move to another neighborhood or to a place without infrastructure? Will you go where your ministry never reaches the public arena or news? Will you really give up your comfort? Have you ever ask where is the Holy Spirit leading me? Am I suppose to be at this church, school, job,? comforts will you give them up t follow the comforter?

20.06.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou kmoore21 (0)
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@ p_a_m_1_e_l_a:

So true! If we’re are going to maximize our influence and be effective witnesses, we have to be flexible and willing to go with the leading of the Holy Spirit. It is easier said than done. But it boils down to whether you’re more concerned about pleasing God or yourself. Making moves for the sake of ministry and Kingdom work is truly a faith walk.

22.06.2012

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@ p_a_m_1_e_l_a:

I totally agree that the Holy Spirit is
what directs our lives. I believe that if we are too truly do missions then we have
to allow the Holy Spirit to lead us to where God desires us to go. I think that
comfort is a hug beerier in the life of many. It reminds me of the scripture
that speaks to the heart of many being called and few chosen. I believe that no
matter what we do in life God is always going to get the glory and God’s plans
will be accomplished in our lives. It may take some of us longer to get their
because we are not being Spirit lead in our decisions but however I believe
that ultimately we will do all that God has created, planed and purposed for us
to do in due time. God is a sovereign God! It may seem that we are going
throughout our lives making choices and decisions but God is the one directing
every step and each step we take gets us a little closer to where God has
purposed for us to be no matter what way you look at. I do however believe that
it is better to do things Gods way rather than having to learn the hard way.
God treats as sons and daughter so discipline comes with the relationship.

05.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Dharris3 (0)
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@ p_a_m_1_e_l_a:

These are more areas which are needed to be discussed in training, enlightening and empowering those who believe to be a vehicle for getting the message of God out. The Christians within this generation is in need of understanding who the Holy Spirit is, the work of the Holy Spirit,  the Gifts of the Holy Spirit, and the purpose of those gifts.  

06.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou earnold (0)
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@ kmoore21:

I agree too!  And one step further, we not only need to be willing, but we have to learn to see "witness" and "mission" outside of the church box.  So many people think that it is only through church activities, Bible studies, services, and missions that people come to know Christ.  We can take mission out of the box!  Why not allow and encourage people to find creative, interesting ways to expand the Kingdom of God?  People can be ministered to in thousands of ways!  Why do we find restricted to the same things?  We have been given freedom in Christ and that means freedom to share the gospel and enjoy it!  There are people who have come to know and understand God because someone taught them to cook (true story), play basketball, skateboard, sing, dance, read, and the list goes on.  Mission does not mean that we sacrifice all enjoyment and pleasure in life; it means sharing the good new through those avenues when it is appropriate. 

07.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou earnold (0)
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@ p_a_m_1_e_l_a:

There is so much wisdom in that.  We have this misconception that when someone is a Christian, they have all the answers, their life is in order, they settle down and raise a family, and there is no disorder, chaos, uncertainty.  But the picture you shared of mission calling us to a definite level of spontanaity really challenges some people.  We would first have to let go of the sterotype of Christian life being boring and predictable and learn to accept the future having lots of twists and surprises!  It sounds exciting, but lots of people would be terrified! :)  At first!  But the thought that life with Jesus and sharing Him with the world He loves could be exciting and spontaneous could breath fresh life into the local church and really expand its walls!

07.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou tswood (0)
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@ earnold:

We definitely need to get out of the box. We have become to churchy. People want to do everything in the church. They want to bowl, have theatres, and swim in the church. WE need to get creative and our approach. Lets leave the church building.

08.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou tswood (0)
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@ p_a_m_1_e_l_a:

I agree that we do need to sit and think what the Holy Spirit is leading us to do. Honestly, i don’t believe that everyone is lead to missions work. I don’t feel lead to World Mission but those that are, I greatly appreciate because I couldn’t see myself being as affective as them. I believe that God has something different for all of us to do to advance the Kingdom.

08.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou RevChad (0)
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@ earnold:

Most people are looking for authenticity. If we simply life our lives through the lense of our faith (and how can we help but do that if our faith is authentic), then our lives will be a light to people.

As already stated countless times in these conversations, mission isn’t a program or a moment, or a segment of our life. It has to be who we are.

04.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou CamMitch (0)
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@ tswood:

This is great! The church building can be a big turn off for people who have never been to church or have been turned away from a previous church. Also, when churches promote events like bowling and swimming, people can be turned off then too, just because the church name is on the flyers or signs. Im not too sure what a good alternative would be, or how to have an event without promoting the church. But...something to think about I guess.

08.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou CamMitch (0)
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@ kmoore21:

I like this. Although, we have to be careful. Sometimes we may confuse the Holy Spirit with what we think we are supposed to do. As a worship leader, I have had to learn what actually is the leading of the Holy Spirit, and what is a feeling of "this is what I am supposed to do" or "this is what I’ve seen others do in this situation."

08.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Chels (0)
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@ Nastoshea_Cherea_Jefferson:

I agree the Holy Spirit can not be emphasized enough. We, as Christians, are not capable of saving people. The spirit is the one who brings about real change in a person’s life. It is the spirits job to reveal Christ, convict, and enable lasting change. We as Chrstians ar simply free to love and obey Christ.

08.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou CamMitch (0)
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@ RevChad:

Nicely said RevChad. If we can live our lives authentically then surely, God through us can touch the lives of people that we are witnessing to.

10.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Chels (0)
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I ove the encouragement in this article to "motivate and mobilize local churches and believers to seize the opportunities to reach diasporas in their neighborhood by practicing ’missions at our doorstep.’" This is true now more than ever since people are more scattered. 

08.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou CamMitch (0)
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@ Chels:

This indeed is very encouraging. The best way to get the local church mobilized is to get the leaders on board. I’ve said it many times, and will continue to say it until I die...the congregation of a church is influenced by what the pastor/leaders do and do not do. I believe it is important to pray for the leaders in churches to really lead their churches instead of just preach to them.

10.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou scminister (0)
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With the increasing popularity of social media such as Facebook, MySpace, and others, the opportunities for us to minister to displaced people have monumentally increased as have our opportunities to minister to the whole world in general. Having moved from one state in the US to another I found myself reaching out through Facebook to find new friends and communities in my new home. Inevitably in that process I found new friends across the world as well. We cannot afford to ignore the role of social media in spreading word of God’s love. I have been truly blessed by responses to my Facebook posts from people who are struggling with their faith, looking for God, and needing support in their lives.

17.09.2012

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@ scminister:

I haven’t seen Social Media brought up in this conversation--it probably has and I’ve missed it, but I think it needs to be a topic all by itself.  I get a little lost in Facebook, but anything with the icon takes me directly where I want to go, fortunately.  You have touched on something that is both global and local.  I know many dispora population may not have computer access, but that number is growing.  You never know when you may spark someone on Facebook or Twitter to minister to those isolated people.  It’s kind of like each one, teach one in the 21st century.  I enjoyed your post and your points. 

12.11.2012

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@ KayHB:

I have heard the argument recently that such an increase in technological communication has resulted in decrease of social skills among youth. I can understand this point of view, considering the lack of face to face interaction over the web. However, like you two have noted, the technology avaliable today greatly increases the abiity to connect with diaspora poeple who are on the move. It is a resource with limitless potential.

24.11.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou CamMitch (0)
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@ Chels:

I agree that social media websites give us neverending possiblities to communicate with and reach other people. That is so awesome! The internet can also help us research and learn more about other people/cultures. Its important for us to know what is offensive/non-accpetable or things that are acceptable in other cultures before heading out to other places. Not only are we limited to social media when reaching diaspora people, but we have all of the resources we need to learn about other cultures, which is great! 

25.11.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou careymeawayy (0)
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@ scminister: I never even thought about social media. I have friends all over the world and with just a click I can reach them. This also leaves for many Outlets to visit friends in other countries. I wonder if there is some type of mission directed through social media?
02.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou RevChad (0)
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@ CamMitch:

This immediate access can also cause problems though. Because of the ease in which one can publish ideas, those ideas do not always get filtered through the community before they are consumed by an audience that may not be able to discern truth from errant opinion. Many people have been led astray by false gospels because of a false sense of authority that is given to any published work. Only a few decades ago, anyone on TV was assumed to be trustworthy. Anyone who had a book published was assumed to be knowledgeable. This is not necessarily the case now, but the trust and respect that was given to those folks back then is too often assumed and bestowed upon those who are broadcast or published now.

04.12.2012

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@ CamMitch:

You bring up a very good point that the internet is a great resource for gaining knowledge and awareness regarding other cultures. Lack of cultural awareness and sensitivity is an obstacle that needs to be combatted in missions.

08.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Elizabeth_B (0)
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Diaspora missiology has always interested me, ever since my first mission trip when i was in High school. It was not until Divinity School that I came to understand that my heart for those in this country of other nationalities and those who consistently move, was indeed diaspora studies. As with most anywhere we look, we as Christians have so much to do, in spreading the news of the Gospel, to our friends in our neighborhoods, states, along our borders and across the world. It is what we do with the time we are given that makes the difference. 

By looking at other cultures, their traditions their heritage and their lifestyle we then are able to see how to present the gospel to others. It is through studying, observing and speaking with diaspora groups that we learn, and that is what I hope to always do. 

13.09.2011

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou tswood (0)
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@ Elizabeth_B:

We would definitely have a better "advantage" if we knew more about cultures and heritage. I agree with you.

08.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou careymeawayy (0)
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@ Elizabeth_B: Diaspora missiology is something that has just recently interested me, mainly because it is a new term I have learned.

I like how you mention the idea that it is what we do with our time that counts. The problem with a lot of people today is that is so much discrimination based on lack of knowledge. Most people have not grown up with the basic knowledge and understanding of other cultures. With out this in our lives we can become closed minded and unadaptable to other traditions.
02.12.2012

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@ Elizabeth_B:

I too have become intigued by the this new term diaspora. Growing up, I heard the term "mission" used in reference to "missionaries" or "mission trips." The idea of diaspora missions brings to light th reality that all people are called to be part of God’s mission wherever you live and whatever vocation you have.

08.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou kmoore21 (0)
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In order to be a witness there has to be heart and a compassion for the work. There should be relational accountability vertically to God and then we are to go out and share the Gospel horizontally. Our assignment has to be inclusive of sharing and caring. We have to be able to share all that we have and all that we know in order to meet the needs of the people. Then we have to be able to care enough to share our hearts with them.

05.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Dharris3 (0)
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@ kmoore21:

I agree, and I think that is the consensus of all the comments I have read on this posting; “something needs to begin in the local church.” The changing of mindsets, attitudes towards witnessing and mission, and a focus on getting the word out to all the nations.

07.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou earnold (0)
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@ kmoore21:

To a certain extent, yes, Christians need to have a heart for the mission they are called to.  However, I don’t think we should always wait for that.  Sometimes we are called to obedience and we don’t have a heart for it.  Sometimes I think God gives us "on the job training."  A friend of mine just had this experience.  She did not want to go on a mission trip, but her husband did and he wanted her to go.  She agreed even though she did not have a particular heart for the type of evangelism they were going to be participating in.  On the trip, she was called to repentence for her lack of compassion; but it was while she was actively ministering that she was given the heart for it.  It sounds awful, but even as Christians we have to ’fake it til we make it." :)

07.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou tswood (0)
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@ kmoore21:

I believe that as a church we have become selfish. We are so wrapped up in our own lives that we never think of witness and sharing testimonies with others. Today the pastor asked us when was the last time we’ve prayed for someone else. Honestly, I never even think about witnessing until the opportunity arises and thats not ok.

08.07.2012

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@ tswood:

I don’t mean to sound trite, but we are always witnessing. The real question is "Are we testifying for or against the gospel we say we believe?"

04.12.2012

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@ tswood:

This is so true. I dont think that this selfish thing is new deal though. The church has been selfish from the beginning. But aside from that...it would be cool to see leaders in the church set aside time in the service to pray for others. If the congregation sees the pastor and leaders specifically praying for others, then the congregation is more likely to follow.

08.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou kmoore21 (0)
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It is true that there is still a need for the Gospel of Jesus Christ to be carried around the world that everyone may know Him as Savior. However, it becomes more and more evident to me that that mission begins at home. It amazes me when I run into people at the local level who will not step foot into a church. Or for various reasons they have grown to dislike the idea of "church" and they subsequently scatter. And when they scatter, what do we do? Do we go after them or do we just let them be? Whether they’re in church, in the street or living under a bridge, they still need to know and understand the Sovereignty of Jesus and His redemptive work at Calvary. It’s our Mission.

11.06.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Dharris3 (0)
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@ kmoore21:

This is indeed the question which should be not only asked, but answered; What do we do? It would appear the closer the witness is needed, the further we will go away from it. We must change the way we view who the scatted people are in today’s generation.

14.06.2012

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@ Dharris3:

Yes indeed. Then once we identify them we must have an understanding of how to minister to their needs... keeping in mind that everyone has different needs. Hence, there probably won’t be a certain formula or cookie cutter format to follow. Therefore training is indeed needed along WITH the guidance of the Holy Spirit to speak to our hearts to lead us in the right direction.

19.06.2012

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@ kmoore21:

I would not be encouraging some preplanned formula for witnessing, but empowering an attitude of compassion and sensitivity to needs over wants. As well as being able to identify what are their geniune needs vs. what our needs for them may be. The need which is first and foremost is; being reconnected to God. everything else is a secondary, or, temporary manner. Unfortunately, many of us are not well versed in our own beliefs; to be an effective witness.

20.06.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou p_a_m_1_e_l_a (3)
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@ Dharris3:

I agree with you, it is a given that peplanned formulas will not be effective in ministering to the scattered people. An attitude of "other mindedness" is key. "other mindness" in the sense we need to drop our mindset and pick up Jesus’ mindset and mission and be present in the moment with those whom we minister to. In order to accomplish this one must constantly examine their motives and intentions. We have to be educated by the people we minister to before we minister.

20.06.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Dharris3 (0)
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@ p_a_m_1_e_l_a:

The "mindset" is the exactly it. As Paul stated there is the need for a "transformation of the mind to take place. And this "transformation" takes place as our "minds are being renewed." This benefit we have recieved from God, is to be shared with all mankind through compassion, and passionately.  Jesus’ actions where from his love, which spoke to the needs of individuals. The first lesson that need to be taught; "to be effective in mission, is to be affected by God’s purpose for his creation.

21.06.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou kmoore21 (0)
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@ Dharris3:

So true... if we’re not established on a solid foundation in our relationship, there is no way we can help anybody else. In fact part of the large problem is that when people come to the church for guidance, they can’t get what they need because we’re unstable and on shaky ground.  There has to be a solid foundation and whether we want to admit it or not we are a part of that foundation.

05.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou Nastoshea_Cherea_Jefferson (0)
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@ kmoore21:

 I agree that there are so many people here in the USA that does not know
Jesus. I also agree that there are a lot of person who have become so disinterested
in the idea of Church as well. I think as a mission people we are called to
love them just were they are. I believe we are called to pray for them, to
develop a relationship with them where we can begin to show the need for
fellowship of believers. I do not think that we should just dismiss them. I do
not think that we should bagger them and condemn them because of where they
are. I think that the greatest tool we have is the ability to love people who
are different and to be friend them. I think that it is in relationships that
help people to grow towards being obedient to scriptures. I also believe that
it is prayer that will soften their hearts to receive the truth.

05.07.2012

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@ Nastoshea_Cherea_Jefferson:

As strange as it may sound, it not only is needed it is necessary for us to go to the field and learn; so that we can effectively witness with the understanding in culture, language, and history of those we are attempting to share with. Love is indeed needed, but it isn’t realistic to
suggest it is all that is needed.

06.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou earnold (0)
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@ Nastoshea_Cherea_Jefferson:

Amen!  When each one of us considers our own Christian walk, I doubt there is a time when we were convicted or came to salvation because someone said hurtful, ill-timed things to us that embarrassed or shamed us.  Love indeed is powerful, but like C.S. Lewis said:  "Love is not all you need; decency and common sense go a long way too!"  We forget that in reaching out to people that a sense of decency--of protecting the other person’s dignity and common sense--knowing the appropriate time, place, and circumstance for certain actions and words are irreplaceable in effectively sharing the gospel.

07.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou tswood (0)
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@ Nastoshea_Cherea_Jefferson:

I agree. I don’t like the approach of shoving scriptures and gospel down individuals throats because this will only run them away. I befriend these individuals and through our relationship they start to become curious about my faith and thats when the door opens!

08.07.2012

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@ kmoore21:

Kmoore I find myself going back through many of my lessons and adding some systematic studies of missiology. There are areas where I have place a connection to missions, but I have found myself being more intentional.

09.07.2012

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@ tswood:

I am not suggesting love is not necessary, but many of the efforts in mission has be relegated to the thought of love, with no action displaying the love. If love covers a multitude of sin; then why aren’t more people out sharing the word of love? Why there is not a stronger movement to those considered unreachable? I have notice a great number of individual quote that scripture, but it is empty. There is no follow up, there is nothing but judgment; label as look. How often does one inconvenient themselves to may another comfortable? This is why I say; “saying love covers is not enough.”

09.07.2012

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@ Dharris3:

I think that yes we are called to go. I believe that when as the church we can get to the place where we humble ourseleves it opens doors for growth. I believe that teaching is a great tool for learning. If we would go and be willing to humbly except the notion that  we must first learn the people, and cluture then it opens doors for the gospel to be spread. I do agree that its not the only thing that must be done. I think we must learn, build relationships, minister to physical needs, equipp, encourage and empower. I believe that when we do these things ministring becomes lighter and more fulfilling.

12.07.2012

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@ tswood:

Yes in my philosophy of ministry i believe that i must build relationships. I also believe in living the gospel. I think that the way i live my life should be a witness to the gospel of Jesus Christ in and of itself. I do not have to throw scriptures around to let people know i have a relationship with Jesus. I believe people should know that we are Chrsitian by the fruit we bear, the love that we have for one another and the love we share with the world around us.  

12.07.2012

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@ earnold:

The decency that you speak of i would like to call it the Holy Spirit. I think that when ministering the gospel we have to be spirit lead. I think that you are so right to say this. So often i see and hear how people minister and they do more damage then healing. It is important to allow the Spirit to lead you into when, where and what you say to a person. I think that prayer is a key to ministering to persons as well. I never go into a situation of sharing anything with a person without prayer. Prayer is a weapon that can break down walls in my on view of people and their situation and also the walls that the person being ministered to has as well. So yes timing is everything.

12.07.2012

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@ tswood:

I second that, nothing ever shoved really is received well. I find people are not patient- some believe we have to get this person to accept Jesus right now. Truly for Christians, action speaks louder than words.

18.07.2012

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@ kmoore21:

Unfortunately, the church does not have guidance to offer or the people that are offering guidance does not offer spiritual formation, but superficial help such as "everything is going to be alright." I believe our church leaders, Pastors in particular has to be closely involved with those who teach and guide to ensure "scattered people" are not being misled or turned away-this is the mission of the Pastor-

18.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou careymeawayy (0)
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@ kmoore21: I could not agree with you more about how missions starts at home. If we are not able to help our neighbor then how are we going to use those skills in another country. Being prepared to go out when god calls could mean practicing at home and if our focus is so set on going out we could miss a blessing.
02.12.2012

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@ Dharris3: I feel that we are already being transformed just by participating in this discussion. I don’t know about your, but my mindset has been changing and wheels are turning about how I can participate in diaspora missions right here in my own community. So the next step is to figure out how we can make the move from this discussion to our church bodies or friend groups.
02.12.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou RevChad (0)
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@ kmoore21:

This is obviously not an original idea, but when we talk about people who are "not willing to set foot in a church", we are perpetuating the myth that church is a place or a building or a service. If we would start being the Church (fulfilling the Mission of God) in our communities, people wouldn’t have to "set foot in a church." They would be surrounded by the Church.

We say we understand this, but we typically only act like the Church, when we are "at church".

What is it going to take to change this?

04.12.2012

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@ careymeawayy:

Totally agree. Young people need to be exposed and allowed to explore other cultures more. The teens I pastor are facinated with other cultures and hungry for more information.

I imagine that this type of education could change more than just missions. It would help to eliminate bullying and prejudice and much more!

04.12.2012

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@ earnold:

I agree completely. This is where the idea of love and building relationships comes in. It’s also where understanding that the Holy Spirit is the who does the work. Developing a relationship with people and allowing God to work in their circumstances to make them aware of their need (Matt 5:3). Only then are they truly receptive to the gospel that they have hopefully heard and seen in the lives of the Church around them.

04.12.2012

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@ RevChad:

Yes!  i always thought that every High School American should go to another country and see poverty (which technically they stay in America as well).  With our eyes open to other parts of the world we are able to see different needs and maybe have a change of heart.

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@ RevChad:

Yes!  i always thought that every High School American should go to another country and see poverty (which technically they stay in America as well).  With our eyes open to other parts of the world we are able to see different needs and maybe have a change of heart.

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@ RevChad:

Yes!  i always thought that every High School American should go to another country and see poverty (which technically they stay in America as well).  With our eyes open to other parts of the world we are able to see different needs and maybe have a change of heart.

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@ RevChad:

Yes!  i always thought that every High School American should go to another country and see poverty (which technically they stay in America as well).  With our eyes open to other parts of the world we are able to see different needs and maybe have a change of heart.

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@ RevChad:

Yes!  i always thought that every High School American should go to another country and see poverty (which technically they stay in America as well).  With our eyes open to other parts of the world we are able to see different needs and maybe have a change of heart.

05.12.2012

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@ careymeawayy:

I agree. This is just like the saying that the best way to learn a language is to go to another country and learn it there. I think this is a pretty similar situation.

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We have to always keep in mind that missions go far beyond individuals and/or church departments. We need to see entire congregations get involved in the work of missions. The more people we can get involved, we can get trained, the more we can mobilize to carry out the assignment of the Great Commission.

05.07.2012

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@ kmoore21:

Many of us joke about the Jehovah’s Witness that is knocking on your door to share their views on the gospels. When we should be just as vigilant in sharing the word. Most Christian has a pious; “I don’t need to do that” attitude. When we have been given the same mandates;  “go witness”, and “make disciples”.

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@ Dharris3:

We always laugh and joke about how they are so adamant; however, we need take their approach to sharing the gospel. I believe we would be better vehicles for God if we did.

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@ tswood:

In a similar vein, there are cults (one in my community) who are doing a very effective job of ministering to people in need--especially diasporic people. They "prey" on these people by doing what the Church should be doing. They find people who are in need physically, emotionally, spiritually, and communally and they meet those needs with a perverted gospel.

When is the Church going to step up and do what we have been called to do?

04.12.2012

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@ kmoore21:

Integrating “diaspora missiology” into a standard course of study is a great idea to begin to educate people about this topic.  The more we know about how to reach out to this people group the less excuses we have to ignore the call. Ultimately, God is in control of this world and if we do not carry out his mission then he will find someone else to do the job.  His work may not be understandable to the human brain, but in his time will be his finished masterpiece.   

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@ kmoore21:

You bring up a valid point. Truly all peple are called to participate is God’s mission to redeam the world. Regardless of age, job, race, or any other difference all are to actively partake in missions. it is not merely missionaries wh are called to this task, but all people who know Christ.

08.12.2012

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@ kmoore21:

I agree! I also believe, and have seen many times, that the congregation reflects the actions of the pastor and leaders of the church. A lot of times I see pastors/leaders talk about and promote missions, but aren’t always involved themselves. I know that isn’t the case in every church, but sadly that’s how it is in a lot of them. I know of some churches (predominately white, middle-upper middle class) whose church building is right beside of low income areas. However, they never reach out to these low income families. The pastor talks about the church growing but never does anything himself, so how can he expect his congregation to do something?

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@ RevChad:

Not to mention...They seem to care about people more than Christians do.

08.12.2012

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On p. 5, T.V., Thomas, Sadiri Joy Tira, Enoch note that “a concerted effort should be made to teach diaspora missiology both at the formal and non-formal level” and that as Christians we are to “pray to the Lord of harvest to raise up worldwide intercession for an unprecedented move of the Holy Spirit so that the Whole Church takes the Whole Gospel to the Whole World.”  May we as Christians act out of knowledge rather than ignorance and may we know that the Holy Spirit is the one who saves people and produces lasting change.

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One challenge that the author mentions is the fact that missionaries use an outcome based approach to reaching out to people.  One reason for this is that people back home want to see what their money is doing around the world.  Its virtually impossible to show and outcome for the necessary relationship building that needs to take place before trust happens. “Relational approach in ministry (diaspora missions included) differs from that of “programmatic approach” for it is costly, time-consuming, effort-draining, messy and risky; yet it is close to the heart of God.” Non-Missionary people tend to have a hard time grasping this concept.  Before any kind of program can be successful, there must be a level of trust built between the community and the missionary.  This can sometimes take up to a year depending on the type of work and can be very

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@ careymeawayy:

I agree thata relational approah is much more beneficial than an outcome focused approach. It is great to have tangible hundreds of new memebers, baptisms, etc. However, the process of discipleship is not to be neglected. Christianity without depth is insulting to the plan God has to bring life and life to the fullest.

08.12.2012

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One could say that God is intentional when he created the word diaspora.  The bible is full of messages instructing us to go out and spread the good news of Christ.  The author states “It is a universal fact that new environments make people more curious, make them question their long-held assumptions, challenge them to understand and compare their religious worldviews, and make them explore new alternatives and thus become highly receptive to the Gospel.” What a powerfully true statement.  When people are forced to leave their comfort place called home, they then have to start over and create a new way of life, they are often more vulnerable.  Christian learn to have more faith in their walk with God.  When missionaries trek out to other countries, they leave all comforts at home, even the financial comfort. 

 

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@ careymeawayy:

I agree. It is actually God’s plan for people to be on the move. The image of a stagnant puddle comes to mind. Stagnant puddles contain very little motion, are murky, and dirty to the point that drinking it would be frowned upon because of the bacteria and filth contained therein. God is not a stagnant God and he desires his people to not become stagnant. Rather God is on the move and brings life to those who take him in.

08.12.2012

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Opportunities for reaching out diasporas are vastly available.  This is also called short-term missions.  The authors mention that this type of work is not just for the career missionary, but is made available for everyone. The authors then mention several ministry approaches to reach Diasporas.  This can range from Americans serving in their own homeland to reaching out to crewmembers out in the sea.   Opportunity is available to us if we just reach out to what God is calling us to do. 

05.12.2012

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There is a plethora of mission initiatives going on throughout the world.  They range from a few days to career status.  This paper makes a point that this is a great time to reach out to the diaspora people groups.  It describes briefly, many different opportunities to work with Diasporas.  It can be something as simple as church planting in Creative Access Networks to reaching out to Japan, which is an extremely hard country for missionaries to enter. 

05.12.2012

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It is amazing to hear the sheer numbers of the different groups of people in other countries. It makes me and I know others so much more aware that our mission does not just lay abroad in a foreign country but our mission, and that foreign country is right outside our doorsteps, in our neighborhoods, in our schools, and in our community. Our mindset does not lend itself towards this type of thinking it is something we must begin to train ourselves to think that we can make an impact in our daily life with the ones around us that is literally making an impact on the world, because of where everyone is from, and forget the rationale that missions only happens once a year on a church mission trip. 

10.11.2011

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@ Elizabeth_B:

As I have become more aware of how many people from other countries are right in my backyard, my mind has raced to develop creative ways to reach them for Jesus Christ.  From daycare to community programs, churches need to get creative in reaching these diaspora peoples.  If we were to reach them, then they take the gospel back to their own lands, we have begun to make inroads for the Kingdom.  Our "mission" must change to reach these people.

29.11.2011

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@ brucec:

I think our mission will change Brucec,and we will start to reach people who are in our country and away from their native land,but first we must learn to reach those we are already close to,people we know, people in our own homes and churches, must christians have not learned where the mission begins.

27.04.2012

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@ willie_williams:

The faces of neighborhoods are changing.  I agree, churches must determine where their mission begins and how to reach out to people in the neighborhood, even if they do not look like them.  God’s love is universal and inclusive.

28.04.2012

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@ Elizabeth_B:

It is essential to start in Jerusalem there are people in the commmity and on our jobs that do not have any hope and do not believe in the Almighty God. If we are truly born again we should have a boldness to share the gospel not only with our language but by our lifestyle and if we think about it we may be the only bible that someone sees although we are considered a bible belt community.

Donnie Lewis Thurman

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@ Elizabeth_B:

I agree there is the need for training. we oftentimes hear of missions in the church, but we don’t recieve much training in missions. So, our focus is place on those going out, across the oceans. Never realizing there is a need right before us.

14.06.2012

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@ Dharris3: I completely agree. In our church, you are given missions training if and when you sign up for a mission trip. The result is that people who have not gone on a trip have not been given insights as to how to share the good news and minister to needs, plus they do not feel as if it is part of their identity. Our pastor is himself part of diaspora, and he does a good job of preaching this message, but a more focused, small group approach to mission-minded training may be more effective...now that this conversation makes me think more critically about it. Thanks for bringing it up!
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@ Elizabeth_B:

  Absoloutely we serve a God that is a global God, a God of global people, and a God of global community. Mission indeed is the heart of who we are as Christians and what we are called to do. Mission to the Christian is indded a purpose and a lifestyle in the church and not classified as a department. Our primary task is to proclaim the word of God to all nations and teach them that there is only (1) God, and to serve God is to live a holy life.

Donnie Thurman Sr. 

19.06.2012

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@ Elizabeth_B:

Yes, but this forces people to make some hard decisions about their politics.  Ministering to those in diaspora would mean letting go of lots of political ideologies that hinder gospel spreading:  attitudes toward non-English speakers, undocumented residents, and xenophobia.  Local Christians may find that these are not conducive to evangelism of diaspora.  The church may realize that it cannot be a political force and the body of Christ at the same time.  We may have to choose between these once we have discovered what our primary purpose is.  For some people, that is a scary thought.

19.06.2012

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@ Dharris3:

I am saddened to say that many of us would not be able to effectively minister within a true diaspora missions community because of the lack of training. We are ill-prepared and lack knowledge in this subject. But I believe the root of our lack lies within the lack of compassion for someone other than ourselves. Before we can look into training, we need to look into our hearts. If you don’t have a heart for missions, you will not be effective in implementation.

19.06.2012

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@ winner:

Wow, I was just thinking about how must of an effort is given toward going out and sharing the word of God to those outside of the walls of the sanctuary, and how little of an (real) effort is given toward making it relative to the one’s on the insde of the walls. We are spending a great deal of time talking prosperity to people who are suffering, instead of being a conscious, effective part of their liberation from what’s oppressing them.

20.06.2012

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@ DonnieLewisThurman:

I have realized that the central theme in all that I proclaim is "change." Paul calls for us to be "transformed." God calls mankind to "come out of the place of origin." the church of the 21st century must come to the realization that it is time to change! change our "purpose" to "God’s Purpose." Come out of being "program orientated" and become "people orientated."

20.06.2012

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@ earnold:

Political idealogies; where is GOD in political idealogies? This is some of the problems I am speaking of: we are so wrapped with what regard our own perceptions ( own ways of seeing things), we are not able to see God! This is the problem with todays church; we have gotten so much into politics, that we have left the "Mission of God!" not only does the people need training, many of the pastors need training.

20.06.2012

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@ kmoore21:

There are various reasons why today’s Christian has become lethargic
when it comes to reaching the scattered; and one of those reasons happen to be “lack of compassion”. We should also so mention, some of that is due to the misappropriations in leadership, the lack of teaching on missions in the local body, and the fear of injury and rejection. Knowing this, we should begin training denouncing and restructuring many of these issues.

06.07.2012

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@ kmoore21:

I think you are not alone feeling sadden, but this is where the Pastors can be instrumental in turning things around. I may be a long journey, and you may have to walk it alone; but the people will see you and follow you (Pastors that is).  By the Pastors of the local churches reinstituting the mission of the church through training and interaction, the church can be redirected.

07.07.2012

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@ DonnieLewisThurman:

I agree.  And your point makes me think that we take the "Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and the world" metaphor too literally!  We like to think that Jerusalem means our city, Judea our state, etc.  But based on your definition, Jerusalem could be our family, Judea our workplace, etc.  This metaphor may be different for each person.  What a fresh way of looking at something we have all read so many times--thank you!

07.07.2012

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@ winner:

This is so true. I often hear pastors speak about how to reach the community around the church but they don’t know how because they are a different ethnicity. Its time for the church to learn how to minister to everydody. We need to learn about different cultures and traditions. 

08.07.2012

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@ Dharris3:

I said the same thing! There definitely needs to be a training! I believe church would benefit a great deal from it.

08.07.2012

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@ willie_williams:

This is a very valid point. People often say they want to go over to Africa and minister to their needs but they haven’t ministered to the poor people in their own cities.

08.07.2012

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@ earnold:

I find myself being more intentional relaying missional focus within my teaching opportunities. I am not willing to leave it solely up to another leader; it is my responsibility to pave the way. The change in focus begins with those who are in the front; the leaders.

09.07.2012

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@ Elizabeth_B:

Oh yes that is so true. I think that we must be aware that missions happens while we are at work,  in our home, at the mall, at the gass station and even on facebook and twitter. Often times we are so caught up in our own daily life that we forget to ask the Lord to guide us to person who need Him each day we live. I think that if we would get out of the mind set that missions is about going over seas that we would find out truly God wants us to be life long, daily making disciples after frist being a disciple ourselves.

12.07.2012

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@ DonnieLewisThurman:

Amen, I am so humbled by the notion that God has no respect of person. The love and grace of God exstends beyond all nations, tribes, languages and people. I do believe that God is postioning the Church with the intent to transform lives one girl, boy, man, and woman at a time. If only the Chruch could see themselves as missional people and begin to go seek lost souls. It saddens my heart to see how so many in the body are caught up in just going through the motions of doing church each sunday. We have missied the mark and it is my prayer that we begin to see this and do something about it.

12.07.2012

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@ earnold:

Yes, scatterred people, displaced people, marginalized peopled, homeless, hungry people, criminals, some church people, co-workers, they can all be "Scattered people." Sometimes we overthink and is ignorant (not knowing.) We too have been "scattered people" at some point. I am "scattered people" right now- I am from Chicago and live in North Carolina.

18.07.2012

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@ Dharris3:

I totally agree, especially after learning that the Pastor’s role is to prepare the flock.

 

 

18.07.2012

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@ Nastoshea_Cherea_Jefferson:

I join you in your sadness that going to church is all there is to our Christian walk. I guess the question is - What are we who have the understanding going to do about missions? I have failed to do missions myself. I will join you that Christians get on the missiions track.

18.07.2012

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@ earnold:

Those Metaphors are great!  Thinking of our own neighborhoods, cities or even countries in that way is exactly what "borderless" means.  Globalization begins with exactly our own pin point on the map and goes from there.  There are so many additional aspects to consider, of course, but this is a good mindset to have.  

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@ brucec:

You bring up an excellent point about creativity.  Sometimes that get’s lost in the overwhelming need and the allocation of scarce resources.  Perhaps that should be first on the agenda of any meeting concerning reading diaspora populations.  Brainstorming or anything like that to start a meeting may start everyone thinking--even if you don’t come up with THE idea at that exact time, you may have a "brainstorm" yourself driving home.  That is where a message board or email group or come form of online group communication may play a part.  It is always open for an exchange of ideas, should they come over bedtime prayers or morning coffee.

12.11.2012

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@ willie_williams:

I agree it is important to get to know the needs of those right around us.  It is probably not even that difficult, because many of their needs may be ours as well.  If we minister to our community it is definitely a start in the world.  Everyone has different talents, skills, connections, as well as comfort levels.  If we bring all those together, that is if everyone takes their own unique selves and uses it,  all populations will be reached.  I like the phrase, “each one teach one” because it applies to mission work well.

30.11.2012

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@ Elizabeth_B: This is such a great reminder of how missions is not just a one a year event and how we must be in the mindset year round. what if we miss out on a blessing from god because we fail to obey a simple task? Or what if we miss out on the opportunity to serve other nations because iris masked by a seemingly mundane request?
02.12.2012

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@ tswood: I agree! There should be manditory classes on anthropology starting in elementary school. And more importantly this education should start at home. Until we can look at our differences as a unique aspect of life, we will never reach that point in life.
02.12.2012

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@ kmoore21: Even if we have a heart for missions, we can still lose sight of our purpose. We get so bogged down from other stresses of life that we can easily put our passions aside due to exhaustion. I think one important factor to realize is that we are human, and we need time to mentally rest and take time to refocus our call from God.
02.12.2012

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@ Dharris3:

Not only are your comments true for those of global cultures, but also for  young adults and college students. As a student pastor, I have be come acutely aware that these individuals are, at least temporarily, on the move. They are in transition and this makes ministering to and with them challenging. When this concept is applied to those who are “on the move” in a more long-term, permanent way, I can only imaging the difficulty that this poses.

04.12.2012

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@ tswood:

Valid point Willie. Consider also that there are "nations" right in our own cities--people who are in close proximity to us, but are really part of another culture or nation. Many of them are looking to connect and we have an opportunity and responsibility to connect them to the gospel.

04.12.2012

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@ careymeawayy:

Totally agree. Young people need to be exposed and allowed to explore other cultures more. The teens I pastor are facinated with other cultures and hungry for more information.

I imagine that this type of education could change more than just missions. It would help to eliminate bullying and prejudice and much more!

04.12.2012

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@ careymeawayy:

Totally agree. Young people need to be exposed and allowed to explore other cultures more. The teens I pastor are facinated with other cultures and hungry for more information.

I imagine that this type of education could change more than just missions. It would help to eliminate bullying and prejudice and much more!

04.12.2012

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Although Diaspora presents many challenges, as I read this paper, the concept that stood out most to me was the idea of our “borderless world.” Technology like the internet and other forms of immediate communication have allowed and even expedited the globalization of our world. No longer does it take days to get communication from its source to its recipient. No longer does it take lots of money and a structured system to have ideas published, one can simply post on a message board or establish a website on which to make information available to the whole world. These advancements open new possibilities in how those unreached by the gospel can be influenced by the gospel. There are new ways to present the unchanging ancient truth. Lausanne is a huge part of that.

04.12.2012

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i totally agree with this piece. I believe that as a church we should start having a missions committee. Just like there is an hospitality committee, churches should start committee that just deals primaritly with diaspora.

08.07.2012

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@ tswood: What a great idea!! A missions committee! Our church has a giving circle that meets monthly to share a Meal and collect an offering. The money collected goes to a selected member of the community to help with some kind of need.
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Great insights.  The reality that "200 million people now live and work outside their homeland" and that many of these migrating people will eventually make their way to the United States, should be a wake-up call for the American church.  Unlike any other time in history, the American church has the wonderful opportunity of sharing Christ with the world.  The world, in essence, is coming to our local communities.  How much more convenient can it be made for the church?  However, the question to be answered is whether or not the American church will answer the call.  Jesus told us to carry the gospel into the world.  If we cannot carry the gospel to the diaspora communities sitting outside our church doorsteps, then we the church need to reevaluate our "saltiness."

30.11.2011

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@ padre_todd:

As a youth minister, I can see endless possibilities to reach the youth and children who are living in our country.  I suspect many of these youth are seeking for ways to "fit in."  They would love to be invited to be a part of an activity - any activity.  The fields are ripe for harvest.  We have to change our mindset for reaching people from other places - they are under our nose.  Hopefully, we can change our methods and do a better job of reaching our world.

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@ brucec:

Changing our method is definately the right line of thinking. Youth are a good resource in keeping us abreast on reaching youth and they appear more open to interacting with other cultures.

18.07.2012

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@ padre_todd: 200 million people are now living outside their homeland. That is a crazy amount of people. This is a huge wake up call for Americans. Our mission field is right here for other nations if we just look around. This could be as simple as going to the local Chinese restaurant or Mexican food place.
02.12.2012

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I can immagine you in Canada have lots of experience of receiving people from all over the world. The way i believe is one way to achieve these people is showing care. Leaving abroad show me how lonely we can be even in a crowd.

04.10.2012

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@ brother_edward:

Your words "lonely in a crowd" described to me what many diaspora populations must be feeling.  There are other ways to mission to people besides food, clothing, education, etc.  Of course, that is critical.  But there are many other scattered people who have that and do not have there spiritual needs met.  To help these souls would offer rewards in an entirely different way.

30.11.2012

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The idea about diaspora is a very new term for me, but it is something that seems very interesting.  I did not realize how many people move each year and for various reasons other than a change of job or some type of crisis.  Also, i liked the idea or a "borderless world" because i feel that interacting with other cultures creates a more accepting and openminded environment.

12.11.2012

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@ careymeawayy:

I also found the idea of the "borderless world" interesting. We as humans tend to focus on our differences culturally, geopgraphically, and asthetically. Perhaps instead, acceptance would go a long way Truly all people have more in common than we have different.

24.11.2012

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I find this interesting but my thoughts immediately began to
focus on the strangers amongst us in America, which are Americans. “Ministering
to the scattered people”: this phrase(to me)  is the summation of God’s word to mankind, to
reach out to those that have been scattered across the land. The only problem
is that many of the Christian seeking to be a part of a mission venture are
going out to foreign lands without beginning in their own land. There are
“scattered people” in America that will never receive the word, due to the
scattering of the church. People are being called to come out of their places
of origin, and stand together under a common belief; when there is no
commonality within the ecclesia. There are people scattered in America due to
socio-economic factors, religious secularism, and theological reductionism
(just to mention a few). Why it sounds great to go out into “Judea, Samaria,
and the uttermost part of the earth”; what happen to starting in
“Jerusalem”?  There is the need for
Americans to reach the Diasporas people in America, with the same
aggressiveness being offered to foreign lands. Many are being trained to go out
and conquer strange lands; while leaving our own land unconquered and
scattered. I agree, there are “scattered people” in our midst; but they are not
all from a foreign land.

11.06.2012

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@ Dharris3:

You know, I have never considered that within the concept of missions.  When Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, so many people rushed down to help (as they should).  However, it never occured to me the thousands of people who did get out of the city and could not return.  Those are also scattered people!  When the dustbowl and depression in the early twentieth century forced people to migrate west where there were (some) jobs.  How many people--Americans even--have been displaced due to foreclosure, the recession, job loss, divorce, bankruptcy, etc.  I never before considered that in this light...they are displaced, much like refugees, and desperately in need both physically and spiritually.  But they are the "unseen ones" because maybe they speak our language, share our culture, but underneath are truly a "fish out of water."  Maybe it just requires retraining our minds.  When I hear someone say, "Her kids moved in with her because they lost their home," I will now think SCATTERED PEOPLE  rather than someone going through a difficult time.

07.07.2012

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@ Dharris3:

Wow, i agree. I think that this is because american culture teaches that missions is about going over seas. Many of  todays American churches do not see missions as being inland. I think that their must be some teaching and training for our younger generations to understand that missions is at their school, the mall, facebook, and also world wide. Mission must frist begin at home. People fail because of lack of knowledge, rejected knowledge, and forgotten knowledge. So we must teach and equipp.

12.07.2012

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@ Dharris3:

I agree with you. Many of the churches, which believe Jesus is Lord, are not focused on missions in "reality." Unfortunately, to do mission is not priority and then when we do it, it has to be glamorous. So the thought of missions in are local area- does not carry enough weight. I believe more edcuation on missions would be helpful in order for the church body to properly practice missions.

18.07.2012

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@ earnold:

Yes, scatterred people, displaced people, marginalized peopled, homeless, hungry people, criminals, some church people, co-workers, they can all be "Scattered people." Sometimes we overthink and is ignorant (not knowing.) We too have been "scattered people" at some point. I am "scattered people" right now- I am from Chicago and live in North Carolina.

18.07.2012

Responder Bandeira 0 Gostou Não Gostou KayHB (1)
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@ Dharris3:

I agree that part of any mission should be the one that is needed around you.  It is so difficult to see the misery around the world.  T.S. Eliot is credited with one of my favorite quotes "All who wander are not lost"--that is true with people who might move for jobs, etc. SOMETIMES.  But not all the time.  We have people around us every day who might not "wander" but are lost.  They are a disapora population who might be new to a community or may have lived their for years but still fee isolated and "scattered".  I know you must keep the scope of a problem with reasonable levels or it will not be solved at all, but it is so easy to overlook people we see everyday.  Perhaps that wouldn’t be considered a disapora mission but I believe it should be.

12.11.2012

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